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“We have not treated them like people,” he said.

The Black church has, for years, been known for not being the biggest supporter of the LGBT community, but today, Kirk Franklin, a respected force in the religious community, has come forward to apologize on their behalf.

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“I want to apologize for all of the hurtful and painful things that have been said about people in the church that have been talented and gifted and musical, that we’ve used and we’ve embarrassed… and all this other horrible crap that we’ve done,” he told The Grio. “We have not treated them like people. We’re talking about human beings, men and women that God has created.”

The “I Smile” crooner explained the Bible was not written as an anti-gay work, but rather, the opposite: “The Bible is not a book that’s an attack on gay people,” he said. “It’s not a book written to attack gay people. It is horrible that we have made it where the Bible is a homophobic manual.”

Bringing it all together, Franklin said that he just wants all LGBT-identifying people to know that God is in their corner. “I mean, you want to talk about things that God gets at… pride and jealousy and envy and arrogance,” he said. “But what we also see is God sending his son to save us all, because we were all… straight, gay or whatever, lost and in need of a savior, and there’s room at the cross for all of us.”

Check out the BET original documentary Holler If You Hear Me: Black & Gay in the Church in full below:

 

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Are you an Uncle Tom but don’t know it? If you are a black Christian, the answer is probably YES! Dusty explains why you should stop selling out your own race, immediately.

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(Photo Above) Markeith Rivers “The Down Low Detective” Says Local Pastor Living Double Life!

PimpPreacher.com Charlotte 08/07/2015
I hate to report on stories like the one I am about to share, but there is no way I can ignore it any longer. Last week Church Folk Revolution Charlotte passed on a story involving the Pastor of Weeping Willow AME (2220 Milton Rd. Charlotte, NC) and a Gay man who contacted the church regarding an alleged sex video involving the Pastor!

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In a separate video posted on his Facebook page Markeith Rivers (who calls himself the Down Low Detective) posted another video on his Facebook page where he gave his followers all the details of a sexual encounter with the pastor. Rivers said he also had a meeting with two Deacons from Weeping Willow Church and showed them the tape. According to Rivers the Deacons confirmed that the man in the video was their Pastor. In the same Facebook video Rivers also said he was planning a protest at Weeping Willow Church, if Pastor Henrico White did not step down immediately.

This past Monday PimpPreacher.com contacted Markeith Rivers at the request of concerned church members to confirm if there was in fact a sex tape, and once again he confirmed.

“I am not a porn star therefore I have no desire to post the video online, but I have shown this video to deacons from Weeping Willow and they both confirm the man in the video was their pastor. I am not a wolf in sheeps clothing – I am just a wolf. When a man can have sex with me on Saturday night then stand in the pulpit Sunday morning that man needs to be exposed.”

The photo below is a screen shot of Markeith Rivers had a meeting with the Board at Weeping Willow AME to discuss the sex tape.

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Rivers is on a personal mission to expose Pastors that he says are living double lives – hooking up with gay men on dating sites – then preaching as if nothing happened.

After that interview we were still sitting on the fence with this story, and that’s when CFR Charlotte notified me that Markeith Rivers had post another video.

This latest video captures a meeting between Rivers and two local pastors who were sent by the area Bishop to moderate and investigate the scandal. In the video the two men ask Rivers to call off the protest he’s planning to demand that Pastor Henrico D. White step down.

Rivers is asked to allow due process to play out and call off his protest and in reply Rivers said “due process for what? You know Henrico is gay – you know your pastor is gay!”

PimpPreacher.com called Weeping Willow church and was unable to reach Pastor White, and was redirected to his email. Markeith Rivers is also demanding that the pastor of Weeping Willow Church step down, and has even threatened to place screen shots of the alleged sex tape all over the church.

The meeting with the three men concluded with an agreement that Rivers would get compensated for his travel – but it was inconclusive if they viewed the sex tape footage.

It is truly bizarre why the two pastors would meet with Rivers in this manner, and jeopardize their reputations, instead of simply asking the pastor to step down. Rivers has not hidden the video – and has made it available upon media request – we we’re also given the opportunity to view the video but declined.

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PimpPreacher.com is also calling for Pastor Henrico White to step down if for no other reason than his personal life and love interest, has derailed the focus of Weeping Willow AME Church.

Another member of Church Folk Revolution Baltimore Bureau put it best when he said the following.

Henrico White previously pastored two other churches in 2008 and 2012 and the emphasis from both churches was “the membership grew, the mortgage was burned and spirits were continually uplifted” and “Within a few month’s time, previous debts were eliminated, finances increased and the membership has grown.”

I think this would explain why they haven’t asked him to step down. Interesting how the emphasis is placed on numerical growth and not spiritual growth. But It’s just like sports. Despite off-the-field issues, as long as your franchise player (Pastor Henrico White) is producing on the field and putting fans in the seats you’re not going to bench him.

You’re going to keep him in the game.

Mr. B-More!

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Bishop T.D. Jakes thinks it is “absolutely” possible for the LGBT and black communities to coexist.

Jakes, who joined HuffPost Live on Monday, opened up to host Marc Lamont-Hill about his thoughts on the relationship between these communities.

“I think that it’s going to diverse from church to church every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” Jakes said.

While Jakes believes churches are allowed to practice and preach values shared by their respective leaders, he also advocates that LGBT people attend a church that aligns with their own beliefs and values. And although he admits that his individual stance on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving,” he says all LGBT people should be treated with tolerance and respect.

“LGBT’s of different types and sorts have to find a place of worship that reflects what your views are and what you believe like anyone else,” he said. “And the church should have it’s own convictions and values.”

Jakes also reaffirmed that members of the LGBT community, like all american citizens, deserve equal protection under the law.

“Once you begin to understand that democracy, that a republic actually, is designed to be an overarching system to protect our unique nuances then we no longer look to public policy to reflect biblical ethics,” Jakes said.

A Georgia pastor’s explosive rant that went viral on YouTube says he was taken out of context. He doesn’t support equality, he just hates hypocrisy. But there may be hope for him yet.

In less than a week, thanks to blogger Joe Jervis, a five-minute video was watched more than 400,000 times because its message of equality by a Black Southern preacher resonated with so many people.

“In the African-American church you are guilty of condemning the Supreme Court system and preaching against something. But if you look at half of our choirs and a great number of our artists that we call abominations, we call demons, we demonize and dehumanize the same people that we use. We don’t say nothing about the gay choir director because he’s good for business,” Pastor E. Dewey Smith says in the video.

“As long as the choir sound good, I ain’t saying nothing about his sexuality. We have done what the slave master did to us. Dehumanize us, degrade us, demonize us, but then use them for our advantage,” he also preached.

It turns out, the preacher says he’s not an LGBT ally, isn’t supportive of same-sex marriage, and isn’t really into equality. He even admits he doesn’t know how to talk to gay people.

The video, he insists, was taken out of context. His real message, he says, was about hypocrisy, and how to minister to those whom you don’t like or are different.

In an extremely long but worthwhile Facebook post, Pastor Smith, who is the head pastor atThe House of Hope in Decateur, writes that his “message was not presented in an effort to ‘affirm the rights’ of the LGBT community. My sermonic intentions and ministerial assignment is not to be the ‘pro gay pastor’. My agenda is Jesus’ message and exaltation.”

But Smith acknowledges in the video he “confidently affirmed the humanity of and contributions that have been made to the black church by many from the gay community. I stand wholeheartedly behind that because it is the truth.”

“Millions of people within the LGBT community and other sects have reached out to me over the past few days. While this has been different, unexpected and uncomfortable for me, it has shown me how so many within the gay community only want to be respected, positively acknowledged and have their humanity affirmed. It is sad to hear the stories of alienation that many same-gender loving people have emailed or sent via social media. Millions have stated, ‘thank you for sharing that we both are on the same level in God’s eyes and have access to Jesus….thanks for letting me know that I Jesus still loves me……thank you for not making me feel inferior’. While these messages have opened my eyes tremendously, please know that I was not trying to become a focal point or ‘champion’ for a ’cause.'”

But anyone who takes the time to read Pastor Smith’s Facebook post, and not the PR statement sent to media outlets, can see he has genuine questions about how the church, pastors, and Christianity treats LGBT people. And he’s clearly uncomfortable with what he’s seeing.

What does the “anti-homosexuality church” say to parents who have gay children? Does our theology cause a wedge between “straight” parents and same-gender loving children? Is it “godly” for a parent to ever turn their backs on their gay children?” Can we be like Philip and share Christ with those who are hurting and wounded? Are the members of our congregations prepared to do what Philip did?

What is the response of the church to persons who are “comfortable in their lifestyle”, do not see it as sin and accept homosexuality as their normal and God-given reality? Can they participate in ministry? Will it still be “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”? As many churches will not perform same-sex marriages, will they dedicate or christen the babies who are being raised in same-gender loving homes? Can same-gender loving people attend our churches? While some congregations are “welcoming and affirming” of gays, will others be at least “welcoming”? Will some churches excommunicate persons who admit that they’re same-gender loving? Corporations, schools and the public square have all become more open to the LGBT community; have our churches prepared congregants to live in a civil manner with all people? Is proper treatment of our “gay neighbors” a part of our ecclesial efforts to promote decency, civility and citizenship? Is Dr. King’s concept of the “Beloved Community” relevant in this context?

I have always believed and taught that marriage is between a man and a woman. Even as society changes and my theology evolves around ministering to and being intentional about loving all people, my personal theology is still based on male and female relationships only. While this may disappoint many who have encouraged me over the past few days, please allow a mutuality of “tolerance”. However, I do think it is important for us to distinguish between personal theology and public policy. The Supreme Court ruling is an issue of policy. Post-modernity has made me more aware of the pluralistic democracy that governs America. The U.S. is not a theocracy and has been established to supposedly provide certain freedoms and rights to all of its citizens. Every American citizen is granted both the freedom of and freedom from religion. As cynical as that may sound for some, it is the essence of our Nation’s founding. It is very likely over the next 100 years, that many Atheists will be in policy-making roles in America. In the last Presidential election, the majority of evangelical Christians voted for a Mormon as President of the United States. Imagine the changes in society over the next century. I have grave concerns about whose theology could be used to form public policy in the year 2115, should The Lord delay His return. The present policy of this land allows me to worship where I desire to worship and to live with my wife and children. The policy of this land has recently given same-gender loving persons the right to have marriage ceremonies, should they choose and the right for me as a Minister to not perform that ceremony.

Pastor Smith also says the video has “caused several ‘saints’ to ‘hate’ and even ‘wish death’ upon” him.

Smith supports separation of church and state, and unlike so many anti-gay preachers, is willing to at least ask questions. That means there’s hope.

Here’s the video, if you’ve not seen it yet:

 

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Hat tip: Joe Jervis

 

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